SkippyThorson
Nov 24, 01:15 AM
sorry...but her stuff is light years ahead of that old outdated sound.
You have obviously never heard of the auto-tune tool, and never heard her in person without audio altering tools. That's not talent, that's production.
The Beatles are talent. Green Day is talent. U2 is talent. Garth Brooks is talent. The Rolling Stones, Lynyrd Skynyrd, and Elvis are all talent.
Scott Joplin is talent, and I would wager that more people, even today, know "The Entertainer" than "Blah Blah Blah"...
People's view on music appreciation is severely warped. :(
Who???
I presume this is a piss take.:rolleyes:
My point exactly.
I wonder if anyone payed 1.29 for revolution number nine.
I lol'ed, and I needed that in this thread. :)
You have obviously never heard of the auto-tune tool, and never heard her in person without audio altering tools. That's not talent, that's production.
The Beatles are talent. Green Day is talent. U2 is talent. Garth Brooks is talent. The Rolling Stones, Lynyrd Skynyrd, and Elvis are all talent.
Scott Joplin is talent, and I would wager that more people, even today, know "The Entertainer" than "Blah Blah Blah"...
People's view on music appreciation is severely warped. :(
Who???
I presume this is a piss take.:rolleyes:
My point exactly.
I wonder if anyone payed 1.29 for revolution number nine.
I lol'ed, and I needed that in this thread. :)
DiamondMac
Apr 1, 10:51 AM
I keep seeing posters state that the rep of Apple will be hurt (some say long term, others say short term) and I still have not actually seen a reason for this
Of course, I agree that Radioshack is a bit of a low-type choice for Apple but at the end of the day, why exactly would ANYONE look at Apple even slightly more different?
I mean, if BestBuy and others are selling and the rep has not taken a hit, I find it hard to believe that Apple is somehow in danger rep-wise with Radioshack.
Of course, I agree that Radioshack is a bit of a low-type choice for Apple but at the end of the day, why exactly would ANYONE look at Apple even slightly more different?
I mean, if BestBuy and others are selling and the rep has not taken a hit, I find it hard to believe that Apple is somehow in danger rep-wise with Radioshack.
KeithJenner
Nov 25, 02:12 PM
:D Keith, how do you like it. Is there a major difference between that set and the mono set. I am curious because I have been eyeing that purchase.
I assume that you have the Mono set. If so, you have the better one (other than missing Abbey Road and Let It Be. As has been said many times they are better mixes and the differences are fairly significant in places. Due to the differences, it's easier to argue that you need the both.
I like the Mono set packaging, with the replica sleeves, but the stereo set packaging is also very good with better sleeve notes and the mini documentaries. The box set comes with all the documentaries on one DVD which is better than watching them individually on the CD's
Go on, you know you want to. :)
I assume that you have the Mono set. If so, you have the better one (other than missing Abbey Road and Let It Be. As has been said many times they are better mixes and the differences are fairly significant in places. Due to the differences, it's easier to argue that you need the both.
I like the Mono set packaging, with the replica sleeves, but the stereo set packaging is also very good with better sleeve notes and the mini documentaries. The box set comes with all the documentaries on one DVD which is better than watching them individually on the CD's
Go on, you know you want to. :)
msb3079
Mar 29, 11:07 AM
I love new technology and faster speeds, etc as much as the next guy... but personally I'd prefer the cell providers to work on other things:
Better speeds in crowded areas.
All the areas that have Edge (or less) having 3G.
ALL the rural areas that have NO service... having service.
I was driving back home from Mt. Washington this weekend and each time I'm up there, it amazes me how many roads have NO service. There's really no excuse. With the money these companies make.. it's a safety issue.
Better speeds in crowded areas.
All the areas that have Edge (or less) having 3G.
ALL the rural areas that have NO service... having service.
I was driving back home from Mt. Washington this weekend and each time I'm up there, it amazes me how many roads have NO service. There's really no excuse. With the money these companies make.. it's a safety issue.
KeithJenner
Nov 25, 01:15 PM
If you still think that buying that set on iTunes is the better value then that's fine. To me it just doesn't compare.
I don't at all. I have the physical box.
As I say, I agree with many of your points.
I don't at all. I have the physical box.
As I say, I agree with many of your points.
deputy_doofy
Aug 3, 02:46 PM
I am psyched. I've been itching to replace my PB 12" for close to a year - NOT because I NEED to, but because I want to. Therefore, when the updated MBP's with Merom are released, it WAS worth the wait (to me).
Credit card ready...
Credit card ready...
Arquelis
Aug 3, 02:55 PM
Is that a leopard in the reflection of the X of the disk?
Gimzotoy
Aug 24, 03:27 PM
Yeah, low and behold my battery still starts with a W. If I didn't have battery issues I wouldn't be complaining. But as of now my computer doesn't qualify but I DO in fact have battery issues.
I think every laptop ever made has battery issues. I'm about to get my third for my Rev. B 12" PowerBook if neither of my old ones is covered under this recall.
I think every laptop ever made has battery issues. I'm about to get my third for my Rev. B 12" PowerBook if neither of my old ones is covered under this recall.
mentholiptus
Apr 13, 05:13 PM
Currently the Mac App Store has no way of offering an upgrade to existing Mac software. I don't see that changing.
I suspect that all these apps will be stripped of their sample media. They're all quite small without them. Perhaps Apple will sell those files separately on their own on DVDs?
Yeah, we'll see. I guess it all depends on what Apple decides, eh? Unless they've condensed 7-9 apps into 1-4 and ditched all the sample media for livetype, soundtrack pro, motion, DVD studio pro, etc then I strongly doubt it'll be an app store exclusive. I can tell you though, our IT staff won't be very fond of having to go through the Mac app store to keep our entire AV dept up and running.
Aperture is still sold in a box at a higher price, and I'm sure all pro apps will be as well for the foreseeable future. FCP and Aperture as stand alone apps are relatively small, and aperture doesn't ship with 7 discs.
I suspect that all these apps will be stripped of their sample media. They're all quite small without them. Perhaps Apple will sell those files separately on their own on DVDs?
Yeah, we'll see. I guess it all depends on what Apple decides, eh? Unless they've condensed 7-9 apps into 1-4 and ditched all the sample media for livetype, soundtrack pro, motion, DVD studio pro, etc then I strongly doubt it'll be an app store exclusive. I can tell you though, our IT staff won't be very fond of having to go through the Mac app store to keep our entire AV dept up and running.
Aperture is still sold in a box at a higher price, and I'm sure all pro apps will be as well for the foreseeable future. FCP and Aperture as stand alone apps are relatively small, and aperture doesn't ship with 7 discs.
AP_piano295
Apr 26, 12:13 AM
You don't understand how that could come off as racist? The many successful black role models around today simply don't exist in your world view somehow?
I'll agree some of the comment's weren't in the best taste. But take a step back and look at some of the numbers they're really are some worrying disparities between black communities and other communities in the US (and apparently Britain as well).
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-04-08/living/out.of.wedlock.births_1_out-of-wedlock-unwed-mothers-wedding-dress/2?_s=PM:LIVING
Almost 80% of black women give birth outside of wedlock. Which is roughly twice the average rate and 3 times the rate of white women. And a dis-proportionate number of crimes are committed by black men.
I'm NOT trying to claim that there aren't successful well educated black people out there. Obviously there are lots of them (including our current president) but your being delusional if you cannot recognize there are some very serious problems in the black community.
One obviously needs to consider factors like poverty, lack of education etc. And even today there are certainly lingering problematic ripples from slavery and segregation.
But there are cultural issues which members of the black community are going to have to confront.
--> Entertainment Role Models - There is a massive shortage of visible role models in the black community. Don't get me wrong I love rap and hip hop but it is abundantly clear that much of this music glorifies woefully poor behavior.
--> Language (you might be able to lump this in with education) I would never hire someone who can't speak passable English but never the less this ridiculous cultural lingo persists and propagates.
There are plenty of other problems to consider, but its seriously important that we start discussing this ****. Because the issues definitely aren't going go away if we close our ears and scream LALALALA !!
I'll agree some of the comment's weren't in the best taste. But take a step back and look at some of the numbers they're really are some worrying disparities between black communities and other communities in the US (and apparently Britain as well).
http://articles.cnn.com/2009-04-08/living/out.of.wedlock.births_1_out-of-wedlock-unwed-mothers-wedding-dress/2?_s=PM:LIVING
Almost 80% of black women give birth outside of wedlock. Which is roughly twice the average rate and 3 times the rate of white women. And a dis-proportionate number of crimes are committed by black men.
I'm NOT trying to claim that there aren't successful well educated black people out there. Obviously there are lots of them (including our current president) but your being delusional if you cannot recognize there are some very serious problems in the black community.
One obviously needs to consider factors like poverty, lack of education etc. And even today there are certainly lingering problematic ripples from slavery and segregation.
But there are cultural issues which members of the black community are going to have to confront.
--> Entertainment Role Models - There is a massive shortage of visible role models in the black community. Don't get me wrong I love rap and hip hop but it is abundantly clear that much of this music glorifies woefully poor behavior.
--> Language (you might be able to lump this in with education) I would never hire someone who can't speak passable English but never the less this ridiculous cultural lingo persists and propagates.
There are plenty of other problems to consider, but its seriously important that we start discussing this ****. Because the issues definitely aren't going go away if we close our ears and scream LALALALA !!
bking1000
Mar 23, 12:25 PM
Great story! Hope the guy has a great time with his new iPad!
iDisk
Mar 28, 08:22 PM
And yet, no new iPhone will be present ... I predict a lot of attending hearts will be broken!
WWDC has always been a software conference, the hardware you see on the 1st day are for the consumers (and fanboys), the remaining days are always software focused ... Thats why its from 6th-10th :rolleyes: ... don't get it twisted, not every developer desires the new releases of hardware at every wwdc.
Apple is at the core a software company.
WWDC has always been a software conference, the hardware you see on the 1st day are for the consumers (and fanboys), the remaining days are always software focused ... Thats why its from 6th-10th :rolleyes: ... don't get it twisted, not every developer desires the new releases of hardware at every wwdc.
Apple is at the core a software company.
NAG
Apr 13, 03:43 PM
If it's shipping in June, even June 30, how can it not be near final form? I mean when a developer tells me s/w is "nowhere near final form" I'm thinking early beta at best. But 2.5 months from release (assume June 30) shouldn't it be in the bug testing phases and everything else locked up?
Seeing as how it is referencing the version that was showed which was shown in February I can see how that build would be nowhere near the final form. It is a build that is at least two months old and probably a more stable/incomplete build so that it wouldn't crash constantly during the demo. I can completely see how a lot of features would be missing from the demo version.
Seeing as how it is referencing the version that was showed which was shown in February I can see how that build would be nowhere near the final form. It is a build that is at least two months old and probably a more stable/incomplete build so that it wouldn't crash constantly during the demo. I can completely see how a lot of features would be missing from the demo version.
bbotte
Nov 12, 02:26 PM
It has always been dumb only 1 person at Facebook works on the iPhone app.
iMeowbot
Nov 27, 10:13 AM
Lets hope they remaster them - the stereo effects on the original versions can be really painful on a pair of headphones.
Apple Corps did say (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aFXMHi1sm_p8&refer=us) that the Beatles tracks would be cleaned up before download releases were made.
The cheesy stereo on some of the early tracks may seem odd to current-day listeners, but on the other hand, mashup hobbyists must love it :)
Apple Corps did say (http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=10000103&sid=aFXMHi1sm_p8&refer=us) that the Beatles tracks would be cleaned up before download releases were made.
The cheesy stereo on some of the early tracks may seem odd to current-day listeners, but on the other hand, mashup hobbyists must love it :)
stroked
Apr 26, 07:11 PM
Boy, am I glad it's my bedtime.
So am I.
So am I.
Pachang
Mar 29, 01:13 AM
I dislike Rand's implication that the libyans fighting could be "terrorists". It's unesscessary given the situation they are in. But I see no reason why the US gov should be in involved. There are always people that could be saved from death whether it's by massacre or disease or whatever it doesn't mean that it falls on the us tax payers to fix it. People who want the US to become entrenched in another war this should pick up a gun and go fight it themselves. It's only a no fly zone now but time will tell.....
michaelrjohnson
Aug 8, 01:33 PM
a) apple did the exact same thing with OS X. aqua was kept under wraps for a long, long time from the general public and public developers. up until maybe a year before hand we all though OS X was going to look like OS 9.
b) if you work with big software makers you'll know that top tier developers get access to things that aren't made publicly available months and years in advance. the last alpha/beta cycle i participated in started one month after the latest release (and i was on the second invite list).
a) see above regarding developers. just because we didn't see it in the keynote doesn't mean that the developers haven't
b) app developers don't really integrate with the finder.
c) tiger represented a big shift in OS X development. apple publicly stated that their APIs, previously a moving target, were basically being locked down. what that means is developers don't have to worry (as much) about under the hood changes. if the file browser dialog changes dramatically between now and next spring developers should theoretically have to do nothing, their function/method calls are just calls.
You hit a lot of points here that I chose not to present. You are correct.
a) The OS X preview UI was definitely a surprise, that's for sure.
b) Very true.
a) True, but I think this only applies to the "top tier" developers, as you suggest. (Adobe, for example)
b) Exactly! Other than visually... (Which it's easy to skin your app to match (see Uno))
c) If this is true (which I could understand, but have no evidence of) are you suggesting Apple laid the groundwork for a UI overhaul in Tiger and didn't apply it?
b) if you work with big software makers you'll know that top tier developers get access to things that aren't made publicly available months and years in advance. the last alpha/beta cycle i participated in started one month after the latest release (and i was on the second invite list).
a) see above regarding developers. just because we didn't see it in the keynote doesn't mean that the developers haven't
b) app developers don't really integrate with the finder.
c) tiger represented a big shift in OS X development. apple publicly stated that their APIs, previously a moving target, were basically being locked down. what that means is developers don't have to worry (as much) about under the hood changes. if the file browser dialog changes dramatically between now and next spring developers should theoretically have to do nothing, their function/method calls are just calls.
You hit a lot of points here that I chose not to present. You are correct.
a) The OS X preview UI was definitely a surprise, that's for sure.
b) Very true.
a) True, but I think this only applies to the "top tier" developers, as you suggest. (Adobe, for example)
b) Exactly! Other than visually... (Which it's easy to skin your app to match (see Uno))
c) If this is true (which I could understand, but have no evidence of) are you suggesting Apple laid the groundwork for a UI overhaul in Tiger and didn't apply it?
Hls811
Nov 8, 07:45 AM
Isn't the RAM the same? Unless they are putting single chips in as opposed to double to make store bought upgrades simpler.
The 2.0Ghtz versions were upgraded to 1GB Ram minimum (up from 512).
the 1.83ghtz version is still 512MB
The 2.0Ghtz versions were upgraded to 1GB Ram minimum (up from 512).
the 1.83ghtz version is still 512MB
Furrybeagle
Nov 2, 05:20 PM
I have to go mucking around with plugins to get Flash out of my face on OS X, compared to the iPhone, which does it for me. :rolleyes:
All jokes aside, I personally don�t like Flash, but I�m not quite sure I see the evil of just having the option for it on the iPhone.
All jokes aside, I personally don�t like Flash, but I�m not quite sure I see the evil of just having the option for it on the iPhone.
supernaut
Nov 2, 04:39 PM
Who cares about Flash? Most of the time it's used, it's because the web designers are too dumb or lazy to get the page right without it, because they haven't kept out with what a modern browser is capable of.
BC2009
Apr 13, 03:55 PM
If it's shipping in June, even June 30, how can it not be near final form? I mean when a developer tells me s/w is "nowhere near final form" I'm thinking early beta at best. But 2.5 months from release (assume June 30) shouldn't it be in the bug testing phases and everything else locked up?
Coming from a software developer, it is very likely they are doing a concurrent development model whereby they integrate features from different source branches into the main branch one at a time. During this process you periodically "reverse integrate" the main branch into your feature branch to ensure your feature branch is functioning properly. When you complete a feature branch that has the latest main branch features integrated, you test the build within the feature branch, ensure it works, and then integrate into the main branch to make the new feature available to the other feature branches.
If the "missing" features are relatively orthogonal to one another then it is very likely that when this "main branch" was built in February, that testing of the missing features was already well underway on separate builds within each feature branch. However, you don't integrate into the main branch until you believe the feature branch is bug free.
So if they have major other things to integrate into the main release branch, then they should have all at been at about 98% code-completion in the February time frame, but still undergoing quality testing and bug-fix iterations. There is no way they are slapping new things on at the last minute other than fixes to defects they find.
My bet is that the "missing features" are tied to other things they don't want to announce yet because it might reveal some of their strategy in other areas (i.e.: things like integration with iOS 5, cloud services, or iTunes or whatever -- who knows). There is obviously something they are holding back that Apple seems to feel is a big deal.
Coming from a software developer, it is very likely they are doing a concurrent development model whereby they integrate features from different source branches into the main branch one at a time. During this process you periodically "reverse integrate" the main branch into your feature branch to ensure your feature branch is functioning properly. When you complete a feature branch that has the latest main branch features integrated, you test the build within the feature branch, ensure it works, and then integrate into the main branch to make the new feature available to the other feature branches.
If the "missing" features are relatively orthogonal to one another then it is very likely that when this "main branch" was built in February, that testing of the missing features was already well underway on separate builds within each feature branch. However, you don't integrate into the main branch until you believe the feature branch is bug free.
So if they have major other things to integrate into the main release branch, then they should have all at been at about 98% code-completion in the February time frame, but still undergoing quality testing and bug-fix iterations. There is no way they are slapping new things on at the last minute other than fixes to defects they find.
My bet is that the "missing features" are tied to other things they don't want to announce yet because it might reveal some of their strategy in other areas (i.e.: things like integration with iOS 5, cloud services, or iTunes or whatever -- who knows). There is obviously something they are holding back that Apple seems to feel is a big deal.
mcrain
Mar 11, 02:56 PM
Fivepoint? Hello? You posted the rhetoric from the gentleman from Kentucky, but haven't actually described how and what you did on the little budget game.
mohaukachi
Aug 24, 12:51 PM
know what i find disturbing. this gets front page on cnn.com with a big picture and gloom and doom headline while dell gets a... oh by the way... dell recalled 4.1 million a few weekes ago but greased our palms so we wouldnt make a big stink about it. seems like a damn vendetta to me.
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